The TRUE O+12 Club!

Hi ladies.  Well I think today could be 'the day' of my O+12 but I'm really not too sure!!

Did an opk this morning and there is a line there but it isn't quite as dark as the control line.  I have some ewcm and my cervix feels soft.  Also had a temp dip this morning...does this mean anything?

I got af at 9am so am presuming I would ov at the same time.  Today is cd15 and I ov'd on cd15 last month too.  I am just so scared that if I leave it too late I will miss the chance.

So I'm gonna check my cp/cm throughout the day and if i think we're ready to go then we will be doing tbm at around 10pm this evening (UK time).

I am so scared that I might be too early but also worried I will leave it too late like I did last month.

Arghhhh.....

thanks MB!!  Just so confused.  Someone else suggested that maybe I was having a "fallback pattern", (which when I read about it -- temps fall back after O and then rise again).  But, then tamara said she thought fake O and that I should see what happens 7 to 8 days later (which I think puts me to today/tomorrow).  (On that point, DH was switched to nights this week for first time that I can remember and so, I won't be able to make an attempt tomorrow).  Was also worried that I lost too much weight and am not going to O this month. 

My coverline last month was 97.6.  Not sure what it would be this month (FF seems to only give you that after you O?).  I am using a Basal and temping at the same time (not more than an hour difference -- funny depends on when DS1 wakes me up and then I test immediately -- have it on my nightstand).  The real high temp 98.3 (after I think the fake O) was after very little sleep (maybe 2/3 hours) because I did the o+12 and o+ 16) attempts.  So, who knows.  I will keep watching the today and tomorrow and see what happens.  We did an attempt on Saturday (again thought that I had O'd bc of the saliva microscope -- which showed full -- really more than I have ever seen).

How are you doing on your modified diet?  Are you taking supps?  On the frequent BD -- I thought tamara had said that she prefers releasing instead of frequent BD because it raises testosterone.  Just thought I'd pass it along.

d4D, sounds like a good attempt.  Funny, I bet that without the opks and the temping, you were less stressed and focused really on the shift!!  Which means you probably got it right! Hoping it works for you -- and keep us posted!

Kelly, how's things?  Did you have an other attempt?  xx

Can anyone help with my chart http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18cd07

I've never ov'd later than cd18 before.  I'm experiencing ov pains today.  Hoping to go for outr O+12 attempt this evening but the high temp this morning has confused me!

Also got another +opk this morning.

Hope you don't mind me joining in.  O+12 is my plan when DH gives the green light for TTC#2 hopefully this summer or autumn.  Either way I've got lots of time to practice and get to grips with it.  Just waiting for opks, my microscope and working really hard on monitoring cp and cm and reading everything on hear about O+12.

Chocheaven:

It's kind of hard to tell- why do you stop temping after you get 3 high temps? I like to look at the rest of it to see a pattern. Your temps might normally be up and down.

But it seems that you have a raise then a dip on ov day then it climbs again. Also, you have had a +opk the day before your ov in the past- so it looks like you will ov on cd18. There's a 1st for everything! ;)

ESSL1204:

Hope you don't mind me joining in.  O+12 is my plan when DH gives the green light for TTC#2 hopefully this summer or autumn.  Either way I've got lots of time to practice and get to grips with it.  Just waiting for opks, my microscope and working really hard on monitoring cp and cm and reading everything on hear about O+12.

hi there, welcome to the maddness of TTC pink!!  It's one hell of a rollercoaster xx

d4d to complete family:

hi there, welcome to the maddness of TTC pink!!  It's one hell of a rollercoaster xx

SO TRUE!! ...

Hi there MB, how's things with you??  Hope you're doing well.  Has your MIL been any more supportive?  xx

Hey there to everyone!! And welcome by the way all the newbies! Keep us up to date on everything!

So here is my update:

I'm back on the diet, Though I'm eating lamb and veal as well as chicken and fish. I also am eating corn occassionaly and sometimes including small amounts of onion and garlic with the leeks. I have not started with supps. Trying to keep minerals through diet. Also, I may add supps in when I start my period again.

D4d: In-laws have just forgotten the whole episode. Which is fine. I'm going to try to not let it hinder our relationship (which was going pretty smoothly up until...) It is obvious they are not supremely interested in the affects of the m/c. In future, dh and I will probably not tell them I am pg at all (perhaps until I am showing obviously or unless we are in dire need of help due HG.) Also, their response has completely made up the mind of DH in the world of "what if."
"IF anything were to happen to you," DH told me, "I'd move to america so your parents could help me raise <ds>... I'd rather it be them than my parents." So there may always be that little tinge of ickiness staining the relationship... but I'm going to try not to dwell on it too much.

SLR: Thanks for the info on frequent... I am aware it, but DH has never been one for "releasing" on his own or even with my, ha, excuse the pun, "giving a helping hand". He is a romantic, how lucky am I?! I can imagine too, that daily lovemaking would make it very hard to not have an O. But! If put into the same situation again... and hopefully not- I plan to use OPK's this time!... I don't know... DH will not do his own releasing. What would you do?

Hi ladies... can I join in? We did a 3 day cut-off this month TBM and not an O+12 cos DH has been away for work all week (was tempted to go for the jar theory and O+12 but DH bought the wrong condoms (latex)... )

But for some reason I dont think a cut-off will work for us this month, so even though Im in the 2WW I dont hold much hope of being pg.

Sooooo next month we are doing the true O+12 with TBM! YAY.... hoping to learn a lot of you guys about the all elusive pinpointing of O

Anyone want to take a peak at my chart and let me know what day they think I O'd this cycle. I think it was Tuesday 9th (CD20)... cos I had 2 +OPK previous, had HEAPS of O pain on Tues and plenty leading up to it. Wednesday morning my CP changed from HSO to MM and CM turned from eggwhite to creamy. But I didnt get a huge temp rise on CD21 which I expected... so FF will put O at CD21 but I am pretty confident that it was CD20... What do you ladies think?

TIA

Hey AussieT

I'd say cd20 too. :) GL!

Well...we did our attempt last night.  I was really worried about it because my ph went up to 6.5 even though my cm had dried up.  So I did lime douche 15 mins beforehand.  Had to use quite a lot of lime juice to bring down the sperm ph (it started at 7.75 which is good considering he used to be well up in the 8's!).  I was worrying that I was taking too long adding the lime and thought I might be killing all the sperm by mixing it round. 

I kept checking my ph every 1/2 hour after inserting and I didn't need to add any extra lime juice or douche.  My ph was always around 4 and the ph of the splime was 4.2.  I inserted lime tampon after 3.5 hours for a couple of hours.  Tested ph this morning and it was still low at 4.5(although that's just from the entrance as I couldn't extract any cm to test that).  I added a little replens just to keep it low for the rest of the day.

I'm not feeling very confident at all though, I think I could've missed my true O+12, even though my temps were playing up.  Although I am confident I didn't attempt too early as I've woken to another high temp this morning.  Also a bit worried that the sperm could've died from taking the diva cup in and out so many times!?

So I'm now in the 2ww and already thinking of ways I could improve my attempt next time! Fingers crossed I won't have to.

chocheaven:

So I'm now in the 2ww and already thinking of ways I could improve my attempt next time! Fingers crossed I won't have to.

Good luck chocheaven!! I think its normal after every attempt to second guess yourself. I know i do. Particularly around the diet.. I obsess about the things I ate that were not on the diet tiers etc.

My last pg I was obsessing about all parts of my sway (unfortunately I will never know if that sway worked or not ).

Here's hoping you get your sticky pink bean

AussieTwinkle:

My last pg I was obsessing about all parts of my sway (unfortunately I will never know if that sway worked or not ).

Thanks hun.  So sorry about your loss.  Really hope you get your girl!